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- 00:21 CommissarBrian[Comintern] since you won't send me one, I will send you one.
- 00:21 heidiland Right.
- 00:21 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I know bronies IRL, and I see the way the act
- 00:21 heidiland What exactly is your point?
- 00:21 CommissarBrian[Comintern] it's an unhealthy obsession
- 00:21 CommissarBrian[Comintern] and there is no reason for it
- 00:21 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I am arguing to find a reason
- 00:22 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Last semester in college I had to do a group project in a State and Local Politics class
- 00:22 heidiland I agree. SOME people have an unhealthy obsession with it. Just as some people have an unhealthy obsession for anime, or for games, or for any other type of thing
- 00:22 CommissarBrian[Comintern] My partner was a brony
- 00:22 CommissarBrian[Comintern] he never met up with me
- 00:22 CommissarBrian[Comintern] We would always be in the same places though
- 00:23 CommissarBrian[Comintern] He wouldn't even attempt to talk to me, and I would even try to talk to him
- 00:23 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I called and texted him several time
- 00:23 heidiland So you're extrapolating for an entire demographic of people based on your personal experiences with a socially awkward guy.
- 00:23 heidiland Great
- 00:23 heidiland Not stereotypical at all
- 00:23 CommissarBrian[Comintern] He would just sit in the library or the cafeteria and watch mlp videos
- 00:23 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I failed that fucking project because of him
- 00:23 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Also, like I said
- 00:23 heidiland I'm sorry for you
- 00:23 heidiland But I'm not seeing the relevance
- 00:23 CommissarBrian[Comintern] My best friend's girlfriend
- 00:23 heidiland Sure, he was a douchebag
- 00:24 CommissarBrian[Comintern] buys into a brony facebook
- 00:24 CommissarBrian[Comintern] My ex-girlfriends friends
- 00:24 CommissarBrian[Comintern] are bronies who do meth
- 00:24 heidiland And there are people who buy into a fetish facebook, or a uniform facebook
- 00:24 heidiland All of what you said applies to so many groups of people.
- 00:24 CommissarBrian[Comintern] fetishes at least get you off though
- 00:25 CommissarBrian[Comintern] there is some logicality behind an orgasm
- 00:25 CommissarBrian[Comintern] you can make a point
- 00:25 heidiland Ok, bad analogy.
- 00:25 CommissarBrian[Comintern] there is none with a brony facebook
- 00:25 heidiland There are classical music facebooks and the like
- 00:25 heidiland It's a common interest meeting point
- 00:25 heidiland Now let's get this straight
- 00:25 heidiland I dislike the idea personally
- 00:25 CommissarBrian[Comintern] you can make a career out of classical music though
- 00:25 heidiland But I'm not condemning it out of principle
- 00:26 CommissarBrian[Comintern] there is a point, if not a potential point
- 00:26 heidiland Fine, I can pick all sorts of different interests that have a social or otherwise dating scene behind them
- 00:26 heidiland The fact remains that this is still not relevant to 'bronies'
- 00:26 heidiland There is, by now, a rather large demographic of people who watch /mlp/.
- 00:27 CommissarBrian[Comintern] There is close to no analogy you can give for a brony
- 00:27 heidiland This is fact
- 00:27 heidiland You are providing examples of embarassing things to be sure
- 00:27 heidiland But what if i told you I was a completely normal guy
- 00:27 heidiland I go out with friends
- 00:27 CommissarBrian[Comintern] embarrassing things?
- 00:27 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I wouldn't doubt it
- 00:27 heidiland I have no pony merchandise
- 00:27 heidiland I don't spout brony memes
- 00:27 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Once again, I wouldn't doubt it
- 00:28 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I doubt Kirino has a bunch of anime merchandise
- 00:28 CommissarBrian[Comintern] in fact, I know he doesn't
- 00:28 heidiland You couldn't tell by looking at me that I like /mlp/.
- 00:28 heidiland This is true for the majority of people in my alliance
- 00:28 CommissarBrian[Comintern] You wouldn't be able to tell with Kirino's anime obsession either
- 00:28 heidiland I know, because we come from /mlp/.
- 00:28 heidiland Kirino already posts anime all over the forums
- 00:28 heidiland We don't even do that.
- 00:29 CommissarBrian[Comintern] You are trying to justify this like someone justifies homosexuality
- 00:29 CommissarBrian[Comintern] "we are normal people"
- 00:29 CommissarBrian[Comintern] "we don't spout homosexuality everywhere"
- 00:29 CommissarBrian[Comintern] "We don't wear skimpy outfits or own stereotypically homosexual items"
- 00:30 CommissarBrian[Comintern] You are defending it like it's a lifestyle
- 00:30 heidiland You say that like you expect homosexuality has to be justified.
- 00:30 CommissarBrian[Comintern] a major life choice, like homosexuality
- 00:30 CommissarBrian[Comintern] It is justified
- 00:30 CommissarBrian[Comintern] You are attracted to the same sex
- 00:30 heidiland No, ok, let me get this straight, possibly without interruptions.
- 00:30 heidiland Ok?
- 00:30 CommissarBrian[Comintern] You don't feel the feelings with the opposite sex that you do with the same sex
- 00:31 heidiland Right.
- 00:31 heidiland Now, I can understand people being annoyed with us
- 00:31 heidiland Genuinely, I do.
- 00:31 heidiland I get it all the time back on /mlp/.
- 00:32 heidiland The only argument aside from 'wah stop liking what I don't like' or 'I just don't get the appeal' for being against 'bronies' is that they fling their shit in everyone's faces.
- 00:32 heidiland Which is perfectly understandable
- 00:32 heidiland And my response to that is, we are not the kind of people to do that in the first place.
- 00:33 heidiland Beyond that, it's not my call to make
- 00:33 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I'm not a morally strong person
- 00:33 heidiland Like I said
- 00:33 heidiland I'm not the kind of person who shoves it in someone's face
- 00:33 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I am okay with homosexuality, in fact I encourage people to be who they are.
- 00:33 heidiland If you want to watch it, fine
- 00:33 heidiland If not, then don't
- 00:33 heidiland For me it's not an issue.
- 00:34 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Bronies are something that my small moral compass points against completely
- 00:34 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Every sense in me says that it is wrong
- 00:34 heidiland And that's your prerogative, based on your interactions with a small set of them
- 00:34 heidiland Regrettable, but understandable
- 00:34 CommissarBrian[Comintern] No one has tried to convince me otherwise
- 00:34 heidiland If you keep it to yourself that is
- 00:35 CommissarBrian[Comintern] They just say "h8ters gon h8 hurr hurr"
- 00:35 CommissarBrian[Comintern] which doesn't help matters at all
- 00:35 CommissarBrian[Comintern] If you could provide some reason behind all this, maybe I can begin to understand it
- 00:36 heidiland Now I'm genuinely confused as to what you expect me to do
- 00:36 heidiland Explain why I like the show?
- 00:36 CommissarBrian[Comintern] I just said it directly
- 00:36 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Explain to me why you and the people on /mlp/ do what you do.
- 00:36 heidiland You want to give me a reason as to why bronies shouldn't point against your moral compass, is what I got from a literal reading
- 00:37 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Kind of like how a homosexual would say, I'm not attracted to women, or I was molested as a child therefore I am this way.
- 00:37 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Pretty much
- 00:37 heidiland I don't see how I can do that
- 00:37 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Convince my moral compass to stop point away
- 00:37 CommissarBrian[Comintern] You can start by giving justifications to your actions
- 00:37 heidiland Well ok then. Why not.
- 00:38 heidiland I got into the show about a year and a half ago
- 00:38 heidiland I played tf2
- 00:38 heidiland I started seeing pony sprays
- 00:38 heidiland Then pony videos off Youtube
- 00:38 heidiland I watched a couple
- 00:38 heidiland In particular there was a growing shitstorm on the 4chan board /co/.
- 00:39 heidiland Many people had started watching it there, as that's the most relevant board to it
- 00:39 heidiland However, it got pretty popular and the other /co/ people started bitching about how many threads MLP was taking up
- 00:40 heidiland This wasn't helped by the complete inability of 4chan to self-moderate and consequently they got into a rage whenever a pony picture came up
- 00:40 heidiland So the trolls on /b/ had found their new weapon, and started spamming it everywhere
- 00:40 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Where's your thesis
- 00:40 heidiland Getting there.
- 00:41 heidiland I saw all this and I thought 'why not, I'll give it a watch'.
- 00:41 heidiland I was at university at the time
- 00:41 heidiland Room to myself
- 00:41 heidiland I watched the first series
- 00:41 heidiland And it was pretty catchy
- 00:41 heidiland Why?
- 00:41 heidiland I can't explain
- 00:41 heidiland Perhaps it's the good voice acting
- 00:41 heidiland Or the animations
- 00:41 heidiland Or the personalities of the characters
- 00:42 heidiland I couldn't tell you
- 00:42 heidiland Eventually /mlp/ was born because all of 4chan was getting butthurt at the trolls spamming pony everywhere
- 00:42 heidiland By this point other pony sites had popped up
- 00:43 heidiland Ponychan
- 00:43 heidiland Equestria Daily and the like
- 00:43 heidiland Cons were being organised
- 00:43 heidiland Etc etc.
- 00:43 CommissarBrian[Comintern] Is this something that (if you had kids) you would tell your kids about?
- 00:43 heidiland Sure, why not
- 00:43 heidiland It's a cute cartoon
- 00:43 heidiland It's for their demographic
- 00:43 CommissarBrian[Comintern] not the cartoon
- 00:44 CommissarBrian[Comintern] but you watching it as a college student
- 00:44 heidiland Probably, yes
- 00:44 heidiland I don't see the shame in it
- 00:44 CommissarBrian[Comintern] this opens up a whole new realm of why's but I'll leave that for some other time
- 00:45 heidiland It's important you understand this above all else though
- 00:45 heidiland Yes, /mlp/ has it's fair share of 'autists', to be politically incorrect
- 00:46 heidiland It's also true that the actions of these guys far outweigh the general passivity of most of us with regards to the show
- 00:46 heidiland For most of us it's not an obsession
- 00:48 heidiland I'm genuinely sorry that you've had bad experiences with some people who watch MLP
- 00:48 heidiland But to extend that to all of us is rather unfair
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